Post by afishinmission on Aug 31, 2009 14:03:34 GMT 10
Cdad, I took it off. Not that there was anything OTT in it, but I re-read it and just didn't like the way it sounded.
I saw your coach at the girls GF's on Sunday. We were talking about our GF win, when another bloke that knew him came along and joined in the chat. The new bloke asks coach how NR's season ended up . I could tell it was going to get ugly . . . so I quickly slinked ( or is it slunk, or slunked ? ) away. As turned and disappeared into the crowd, I saw him pointing at the spot I just vacated with an evil look in his eye . . . stammering the words fifteen seconds through gritted teeth. I wasn't hanging around . I ran like a girl. ;D
There was a very good forum representation at the GF games at Webbs.
Leeds, how are you old mate ? Did you like the plug I gave your " score more than them and you'll win " motto ? I see Stan is tucking into you. Oh well . . .
Stan, I see Tony and his mates are giving you a hard time in the premmies thread. But they must be doing something right to win both grades . How do you think your blokes will go at C of C ?
Whoda . . Don't laugh at the Silvo, mate ! That trophy sparkles now. ;D I had to clean it. It was filthy.
A War & Peace post from Stan that was very amusing.
Surely Roscoe will be going for CH, in the knowledge that as his team is right up there with CH, then he could take a lot out that, if they go well. But Stan, you know what, I think you may be right !!
But let me get this right. You are having a go at Auburn for not mentioning a team that they beat but when I say something about someone not congratulating another team for beating them then you have a go at me. Hmmmmm !! Confused, like me, I think you are too Stan.
Post by afishinmission on Sept 1, 2009 9:30:27 GMT 10
Stan, You've opened the biggest can of worms in sport. Being sporting rivals, team A and B don't particularly care for each other on the field. They may even hate each other's sporting guts. Team B has stopped team A from glory 2 years running. The coaches pretend to be civil, but secretly laugh at the inabilities of the other. The parents pretend to be civil, but the fat ones in tracksuits point and laugh at the fat ones in mini-dresses and high heels. The one in the mini dress only wears it to attract the attention of the coach, and so keep her unco son in the squad longer.
Political correctness demands we be nice to each other. Sporting rivalry demands we hate the opposition.
The truth is somewhere in between. ;D
While I'm causing trouble . . . The old debate of Grand Final winners vs Minor premiers.
IN JUNIOR FOOTBALL . . . .
1 . . Nobody dyes their hair for the minor premiership game. 2 . . Nobody's mum bakes cookies in the team colours for the MP game. 3 . . Nobody goes to Macca's after the MP game. 4 . . It is called the MINOR premiership. 5 . . nobody decorates the car and bags, etc with team streamers for the MP game. 6 . . Nanna's, Grandpa's, uncles and aunties don't get invited, or want to come to the MP game. 7 . . Especially in lower divisions(the majority), nobody remembers the MP. Only the Grand final winners. 8 . . EVERYBODY remembers the Grand Final game. Who remembers the game that got them the MP ? 9 . . the Grand Finals were played at Parra stadium. Which goat track were the MP games played on again ? 10 . . The MP doesn't count. The winners are the Grand Final winners. They are called GRAND Champions, ffs ! . Very few remember the MP winners.
As a coach, I have experienced winning both. Believe me, the players, parents etc don't give a rats arse about the MP. The last game of the year is the big one !
In Australia, the concept of MP being the best team is just not on. We have grown up with Grand Finals as being the ultimate game. Some say the MP is the best team over the whole season. I say bollocks. This is not mother England. The whole season also includes the finals, where you only play top 4 teams. Pressure every week. Nowhere to hide. Stand up and be counted. The best team will perform in the week to week of the normal season, and also in the top 4 shoot-out at the exciting end of the season !
The only positive for a MP winner is in first division, for the invite to C of C.
That's my humble opinion. Like I said, Ive been involved with teams that have won them both. I don't remember the games that won us the MP. But the Grand Finals never fade from memory.
Post by afishinmission on Sept 1, 2009 9:58:02 GMT 10
And I bet you like wearing them when nobody is looking ;D.
Mate, that's only 2 reasons so far.
The competition title "champion of champions" sort of infers it's the best teams playing off. Umm . . . not always the case. As Redcard pointed out . . the C of C only has minor prems invited. . .don't get me wrong, we'd still like to have a crack at it . .
But if it came down to choosing between playing a game or 2 in an outside comp, or winning the grand Final . . . I know which I would take any day. But of course, I'm biased
I love the forum. Up till two weeks ago it was all about who wins and who looses oh and of course The "D" word of the kids. And now that winners have won and the other team has lost. Its about who has congratulated and who hasn’t.
Keep it up. Good read.
Fishin, I agree that in aus the finals and specially the grand final is valued a lot higher than the premiership season. That is one of the main reasons the RR wasn't very popular this season.
Stan, If you ask all the teams in Granville if they prefer to win the MP or the GF, the vast majority would say the GF. I'm not saying the GF winners are the better team. I'm saying winning the GF is more valued.
leedsthe diff is they are not bagging out the team that came last
Ahh Stan, not once, repeat, not once have I bagged the team that came last. Just in my opinion the lack of sportmanship by not congratulating other teams on winning against them. And that is your point about Auburn on the other thread- you think they are being unsporting. You can't have it both ways Stan
And remember Stan, I coached a team that came last this season so I know the feeling of losing every week bar 2, but read the thread & I would imagine there was a congratulations to the other team every week.
yes you are bias but you are wrong,,,,,,so you are saying if a team come 4th and wins the GF they should go CoC,,,see now you are being silly,,,,,get over it you won the GF,,,,but are the second best team in the comp.
Ahh, I don't know what is coming over me, but I am with Stan on this one.
Post by afishinmission on Sept 1, 2009 13:27:14 GMT 10
and roscoethe list goes way past 10 when/if a team wins the CoCall the 10 you mentioned plus more
No argument against that. If you could win the C of C . . . bragging rights are yours. The Grand Final would pale into insignificance. Much the same as the Minor premiership does, when compared to the Grand Final.
If you win the MP, you will convince yourself it is the top prize. If you win the GF, you will do the same.
But I'm pretty sure if the MP plays and loses their GF, they won't be too happy.
Let's not get too carried away with this "congratulations" thing. I just wanted to point out the difference between a good sport and a pathetically sore Loser . Personally, rats who congrats me and who doesn't. It wasn't me that won the comp. Generally speaking, the ones that cant bring themselves to say " well done", must be burning inside. And that makes me happy.
And Stan . . I never said that we should go to C of C. Regardless of who beat who . I'm happy to abide by the qualification rules. No problem at all. Don't try to put words in my mouth. The huge volume of words going out simply won't let any come in. ;D
Leeds - I tend to disagree with you about the Champions League as I see this competition being better for having a couple of teams from each league... Wouldn't be too much fun each year if you have the best teams in Italy, Spain and England up against the best in Iceland, San Marino or Lichtenstein...
It had to go that way (similar to State Cup) in that the best 2 teams may come from the same league...
Post by afishinmission on Sept 1, 2009 14:37:22 GMT 10
rossee you might feel different when you are the best team in your comp,,,you dont know what its like untill you are it,,,you havent done it yet so maybe when you do i will wait for your responce then,,untill then you are only talking on heresay...and 1 more time for the dumbbbbiiieesss i Stan Love Gand finals and love winning them....neither play loses to any1 simply says you are the best on that dayand the other says your the best ALL year
Stan, I've been " best in my comp". LW won a lower division MP and GF. Yawn at the MP. The kids only remember the Grand Final.
To me, and it seems a helluva lot of others . . . Winning the Grand Final says you were in the top half of the comp at the end of the rounds, and you were able to tough it out with the best teams in the comp under the pressure of finals football and be the winner of the most anticipated and desired game all season.
The Minor premiership is reward for leading the comp at the end of the rounds. Doesn't take into account the ability to perform under pressure against the best teams.
I've coached both, as I'm sure many others have . . . and we value GF's above MP's. Only MHO, of course.
Post by afishinmission on Sept 1, 2009 15:30:31 GMT 10
Stan, The MP's are the "best" team at the end of the rounds. The GF winners are in the top 4 at the end of the rounds, and are the "best" team at the actual end of the season.
Now, how do we define "best" ? . . . peoples opinions ? game results vs each other ? overall statistics ?
you tell me . But please don't be as daft as to say the MP are the best no matter what. Remember, they were the best till the month of pressure games sorted the men from the boys. And there is a remote possibility there could be the odd MP team who, at the end of the day( or end of the season)turned out NOT to be the best team, whichever definition you care to use.
This is a long off-season, Stan. You will keep defending the valour of the League Champions . And I will go into bat for the Grand Champions.